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2005 (July though December)Dear Mama, I took the class with 6 others. 2 people rode dirt bikes and wanted to get a motorcycle endorsement; 1 had ridden for 25 years without an endorsement and, after nagging from his wife, was taking the class; 1 was my husband who had an Enduro as a young adult, then got a Ninja 250 a few months ago and has been riding it constantly; 1 had ridden for about a year and dumped his bike in a curve and was there at the insistance of his wife, and 1 was a 15 year old boy whose Dad was an enthusiast and had bought him a BMW. He had no experience, but had the fearless 15 year old boy thing going for him. :) Well, I was immediately at the bottom of the class. Going too fast made me feel out of control, and I was literally terrified of leaning the bike. After the middle of the first day (and killing the bike about a hundred times) I got going faster, and realized that leaning wasn't a problem. I still had a screaming voice in the back of my head going, "AAAAHHHH!!!!", but it wasn't overwhelming anymore and I even got a few thumbs-up from the instructor. Day two, I was still at the bottom of the class, but that was ok. I dumped the bike during my first attempt at "the box", but somehow leaped aside. The instructor was _very_ supportive (as was the rest of the class- what a great group of people!), and although I was embarrassed, I got right back on and finished the exercise. My hubby was proud, I was proud, and during the skills test I was one of the few who could do the box perfectly. Take it slow, look through the turn, etc. I was even stopping smoothly! Then, came the exam. I was sure I could repeat my great performance. But, I got too cautious, went too slow, and dumped the bike in the first turn of the box. This time I didn't leap away, I had been looking through the turn and trusting in my abilities, and the bike landed on top of me, pinning me by one leg. After a quick assessment of my situation, I realized I wasn't very hurt. I got a little scraped, my elbow aches a lot today, but no permanent damage. The instructor came over and lifted the bike off of me, and my husband came over. Of course, an automatic failure. The instructor looked crushed- he knew how hard I was trying. The look on my husband's face was indescribable. All the pain and humiliation I felt was echoed and magnified by his anguish for me. The instructor congratulated me on the incredible progress I had made during the weekend and told me he'd try to arrange for me to take the class again if I was interested. Then, he wheeled "my" bike over to the side while everyone else finished the test. That was the hardest part- seeing everyone else finish while I sat out. I "sucked it up" though, and congratulated everyone on their accomplishments. The other woman in the class gave me a hug, as did the instructor, and most everyone gave their condolences- that they felt I had deserved to pass, but that I got a bad break. When we got back to the classroom, before all the cards were handed out, the instructor gave me a special acknowledgement for the incredible progress I had made when it had been obvious that I was so scared to begin with. He said I "had nothing to hang my head about" and encouraged me to try again. Then, everyone applauded. I should have felt good about that, but I FAILED. I let go, trusted in my abilities, and FAILED. I tried my absolute best, and I FAILED. Why couldn't they see that, too? We went home and my husband made me take his bike out around the block a few times- he told me I had learned the skills and I needed to prove it to myself. (he was right) I cried off and on for hours. I'm crying now as I write this. I'm really scared again. I sat squarely on the pity pot all yesterday afternoon and evening, dreamt about it all night, and went to my computer this morning to read about it first thing. I can't tell you how much it means to me to read everyone's experiences here. I'm going to practice and take the class again. And, if I don't make it, I'll do it again. I'm going to prove to _myself_ that I can do this. Maybe motorcycling won't turn out to be my "thing". Maybe it will (I have a strong suspicion it will). Either way, I'm going to keep at it until I'm riding in traffic with my endorsement and feeling safe. :) Thank you all SO MUCH for sharing your experiences. It really helps to know that I'm not alone. As an aside, our MSF instructor was excellent. He was an ex-motorcycle policeman who had spent his last 12 years before retirement as an instructor on the force. He found out about becoming an MSF instructor through a friend, and started doing that because he loved to teach motorcycling. He was serious, but encouraging. I can't have asked for a better teacher, and when I take the course again, I'll definitely try to arrange it so I take it when he's teaching it. Thanks again, Jennifer Newkirk in Denver, CO Dear
Jennifer, So, have hubby get that 250 to an empty parking lot (Wal-Mart on Sunday mornings can work, as well as a school parking lot) and get some practice time in before you take the next class! Set up cones or tennis balls cut in half, mimic the course, and practice, practice, practice. This should get the "AAAAHHHHs" out! And remember, now you've got the feel of how the course will proceed, so mentally you're that much further ahead this time. Many people take the course more than once and upon getting that down, with some more practice time, head over to the experienced class for more training! Learning never ends and it's better to do it the easy way (practice) than the hard way (real life experience that catches you unprepared). Never, ever, ever, ever think that more learning and practice isn't needed . . . good riders know they are in for a lifetime of it and that it makes a difference when it counts! Mama Monday, July 18 For Jennifer who didn't pass her course the first time, but continues to work on it: I too took the MSF two week course and FAILED the practical final. I did not drop the bike but I didn't have my speed where it should be and barely made it out of the U-turn Box. I was extremely nervous for the test which didn't help me either. I felt comfortable in the class and I too felt that the instructors were excellent. I have been able to go around the neighborhood on my Harley 883L Sportster but I am more nervous now that I was before I failed. I am going to suck it up and take the range portion of the class over again in August and this time I am sure I will pass. If I don't, I will keep trying because I do love my motorcycle and it is a shame that it is sitting in the garage. Keep positive and don't give up. I too have found this site to be most encouraging. Without it I may have thrown in the towel as I do not know any other women who ride. Thank you VTwin Mama! Janine Beauchemin in South Lyon, MI (note from Mama: you're welcome and thanks for letting Jennifer know that she's not alone. Yes, failing can set up doubt in our brains, but if we remember that LEARNING is a good thing, then it's easier to get on with practice. With practice comes greater skill, and with greater skill comes diminished nerves when the "test" comes . . . some women have reported taking the course two and even three times . . . with a smile . . . because they knew that it was worth it to keep learning, and the payoff, a motorcycle license, was at the end of that particular rainbow!) Dear
VTwin Mama, The courses are designed to push you (at least here in Ontario, Canada they do) but I learned very valuable lessons. Push steering has saved my butt recently as well as a very controlled fast stop. Glad I practiced that one more times than I can count. Every day out there is a dangerous but glorious one. Practice, practice and practice. My husband and I are enjoying our outings and hopefully as my skills get better the rides will get longer. A graduated license still has me off the road 1/2 hour before sunset, at least till Aug 23, so until then I park it before I turn back into a pumpkin! Love the site and look forward to reading more! Ride safe everybody . . . from the newbie on her 05 Honda 750 Aero Shadow Jackie Dear
Jackie, Wednesday, August 3 Hello
VTwin Mama, Well a year later I took the MSF course and still was scared to death about taking off. Yep, self-fulfilling prophesy . . . I lost control of the bike taking off and dropped it. After talking with the instructor I dropped out of the class after signing up for another one in a couple of months. I went home to work on my "issue." Then I found Jerry "Motorman" Palladino's new DVD - Learn to Ride the Easy Way! It broke down all the steps in such an easy and understandable way. I had heard from everyone, including my MSF instructors to give the throttle a "little" gas and release the clutch slowly when taking off. Guess I needed it to be more specific than that! Jerry said to give it roughly twice as much as idle...well I am over my fear and riding like fool! The DVD also gives you exercises to practice. Excellent DVD for a beginner. My husband says Jerry is his hero since he got me over my bump. Denise in DC Dear
Denise, She had sent me the Learn to Ride DVD you mentioned . . . and I see why it made a difference to you! The Ride Like a Pro III and the Ride Like a Pro for the Ladies are also excellent (I went out with my newest bike and practiced the techniques) and still need to view the Surviving the Mean Streets DVD. I agree that having the practice sessions mapped out for you is a great way to learn . . . you can plan it all out so you don't get overwhelmed and it's easy to share with a riding partner/spouse . . . as it doesn't hurt them to brush up and share. So, you go girl! We'll be giving you your first biker waves pretty soon it seems! Mama Dear
VTwin Mama, Still a little nervous, Im committed to
joining my hubby as a riding buddy rather than a passenger. Like
Jackie, I am the proud owner of an 05 Honda Shadow Aero, and
I get a smile on my face
when I think about learning to ride well enough to enjoy cruising with friends
and seeing the world a little differently. I
bought the bike about 100 miles from home and Jon (husband) rode it home for
me. Then I put on all of my
safety gear and we went across the street to a school parking lot for me to
give her a try. UH-OHHHHHHHHHH!!
Was I ever surprised about the difference between that little Rebel and
my new ride?!?!? I did ok, but
Jon finally was able to see why I laughed when he said I should ride the bike
home! (I had to remind him Id
never been out of second gear!!!) THANKS again for the inspiration and for
the community that is created on this site. Very sincerely, Dear
Betsy, Monday, August 8 More for Jennifer who didn't pass her course the first time, but continues to work on it: Super bowl weekend was when I first took the MSF class and didn't pass. I was so upset, I missed by four points. It wasn't that I thought I was so good but other people passed that were worse than me. I was depressed for days. Now I see it was a blessing in disguise. I really shouldn't have passed, I wasn't ready but I didn't see it that way at the time. After the class I started riding my bike to get more practice so I could take the class again, one Sunday I went out with my husband on a curvy road, I was doing the speed limit and felt I was doing great. We stop and had a chat and he said you know you can do the curves faster than the speed limit, which I knew from a car but didn't feel that comfortable on the bike. Well you guess it, the next curve; I tried to go faster and didn't make it. As I was lying on the side of the hill I decided I was going to learn to ride no matter what. I rode my bike, with bent handlebars, ten miles back to bike shop. I signed up and took the class again and passed in April. If it hasnt been for this web site I would have thought I was all-alone and couldn't do this. Everyones trials really helped me feel I could learn to ride. Today I ride my own ride, take it slow and practice, practice, practice, everything I learned from this web site. It's amazing how practice, practice does help. I love this web site, I learned its ok to drop your bike, guys do it to they just don't talk about it. I do have a problem I am not sure what to do. My clutch hand hurts and get swollen after just riding a short time. I have a 2002 883 and they don't make an easy clutch for that year. I went to the doctor and he said I have tendentious, so I brought a brace, not sure if that's going to work. I looked thru back pages to see if anyone had this problem but I didn't find any information. Thanks again for a great web site and all the encouragement. Also you can teach an old dog new tricks, I am going to be 60 in a couple months and riding has turned back the clock for me. Bonnie from Northern California (note from Mama: Happy Birthday a bit early! Thanks for sharing with Jennifer to once again emphasize that NOBODY is alone in their struggles. Have you checked in AMP's Power Clutch product? This may be a solution for you.) Dear
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Lou Ann, Friday, August 12 In response to Lou Ann's posting about the use of ICE, In Case of Emergency: Lou Ann brings up a great idea with the ICE in your cell phone. It's been in a lot of the EMS literature and in the news in the last month. I just added it to my cell phone yesterday. I do want to point out that everyone should carry medical information as well as emergency contact numbers in their wallet or on their person (if their wallet isn't on them). Take for example an emergency call I attended just yesterday. A cement truck broadsided a mid-sized sedan. The impact rearranged the contents of the car including the driver. There was no cell phone in sight. The patient had such a severe head injury that we had to sedate him and place a breathing tube immediately. Even before we did this he wasn't able to speak at all. He was identified in the ER by his driver's license in his wallet located in his back pocket. ICE is a wonderful idea, but it only works if you have your cell phone with or near you. Most men carry their wallet on them and handbags are usually larger and easier to locate than cell phones. The most important information we, as emergency medical providers, need is medical information so we know how best to treat our patient. If the situation is serious enough the patient may receive treatment before there is time to call a contact person. Many times when an emergency contact person is called they're too shook up to remember anything about medical history. I digress. Please, add ICE to your cell phone AND put your medical history and medication list in your wallet. Your local EMS and ER will thank you if it's ever needed! Other options include a medical information carrier system that affixes to your helmet: http://www.whitehorsepress.com/product_info.php?cPath=1_14&products_id=98 Or, even better! Consider a medic alert bracelet or necklace. There's even a tag developed for joggers that laces onto your shoe! Nice and practical: Beautiful gold jewelry: Fun and/or great for kids: Thanks and Ride Safe! Jennifer, a paramedic (note from Mama: thanks for your expanded thoughts on this subject. I appreciate that as a professional you took the time to share this information with us!) Dear
VTwin Mama, Dear
Jill, Wednesday, August 17 For Jill, whose friend is looking for private instruction in NJ: Just read Jill's plea for help in finding a private instructor for a friend. Boy, do I have a great gal for you. I used her to get my license and she's terrific, certified and will travel to you. She's been riding 28+ years and has the patience of a saint. (she really needed the patience for me 2+ years ago). Not only does she teach you on your own bike or one she can provide, but, also does some video and paper work instruction. All at your house if you'd prefer. Took no time at all and will accompany you to your test site on your "BIG" day. Like I said, she's terrific. So here's her name: Kathy Caliciotti and she's "1 on 1 Motorcycle Riding Instruction". Her cell # is 609-954-1041. If you'd like to see her website, it's www.soncat.com and you can have a peek at her work. If you want you can mention that Marie from the Polar Bear Club recommended her highly. Don't know where in Jersey you're located, but, she did travel quite a distance for my instruction, approximately 50 miles) with no problem. Good luck on your riding skills and ride safe. Marie, aka Scootergal (note from Mama: thanks for helping Jill with a specific source of assistance!) Wednesday, August 17 For Betsy who is getting started: I found this website through my new subscription to Biker Ally. Great letters on this site!! Just read Betsy's letter to VTwin Mama. Like you Betsy, I just learned to ride through the MSF course last year. Since then another friend in my area has learned. Just went for our first ride together on August 6th with our husbands. Also, like you, I am the proud owner of the Aero 750. What a great bike for smaller riders. I'm 5'2" at 105 lbs. Any thing bigger would have been a disaster. Riding in CT and lovin every minute if it. OK, time to find out more neat stuff on this site! Carol (note from Mama: congrats on your own riding adventure and thanks for saying hi to Betsy . . . and glad you're finding useful stuff on the VTwin Mama site!) Monday, August 22 Dear
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Martez, Wednesday, August 31 In response to Carrie who wrote in about her struggles with a riding course: Thank you for sharing your struggles. I just failed my second attempt as well! I had 2 separate rider education weekend course. I know EXACTLY how you feel! I do think the key is practice, practice, practice. I am considering buying a smaller bike and setting up an obstacle course (with exact measurements as the real course) and using bright tennis balls cut in half as markers. I think finding a good place to practice is a great idea! Maybe a parking lot of a business that is closed on weekends. Practicing all the basic maneuvers and mastering them until it becomes second nature is important. The only real failure is in giving up your ambition! Some people who failed their first attempt: Michael Jordan was cut from his high school basketball team. He went home to his bedroom shut the door and cried. Babe Ruth struck out 1,300 times, a major league record. And Finally... When he was 29, he was defeated for the post of Speaker of the House in the State Legislature. When he was 31, he was defeated as Elector. When he was 34, he ran for Congress and lost. At the age of 37, he ran for Congress and finally won. Two years later, he ran again and lost his seat in Congress. At the age of 46, he ran for the U.S. Senate and lost. The following year he ran for Vice President and lost that, too. He ran for the Senate again, and again lost. Finally, at the age of 51, he was elected President of the United States. Who was this perpetual "loser"? Abraham Lincoln . Don't give up anyone...all of us will be writing about our success very soon! Donna in NJ (note from Mama: you've included some inspirational examples of not giving up!) Dear
VTwin Mama, I was a nervous wreck during my instruction and I failed the test. Mainly for the braking part of the test. I didn't feel comfortable through the entire course. It simply was moving along to quick for me. Several students had experience riding and knew all about clutching etc. I, too, was in tears. My husband felt so bad that he took me out to dinner to cheer me up and encouraged me to give it another go. Never one to give up, I retook the rider ed course for yet another weekend. I was doing such an excellent job. The instructors barely gave me any advice because I was mastering the maneuvers with ease (well it was my second time 'round-plus I was practicing on my bike). One of the instructors even mentioned to the group that I was really smooth around the curving part. Then came time for the skills test. I was confident, but then all of a sudden I got nervous -- really nervous. I put my foot down twice on the figure 8 and went out of bounds. (during practice I had done it perfect!). Then I over stopped the distance during the braking part. I just got so nervous with the test part! How could I ride with such ease for 2 days and freeze up during the skills test??!! Tears again and frustration because I knew that overall I was more proficient than some of the guys who passed the skills portion. I would say that out of 11 students 4-5 failed. My husband felt so bad for me. Tears of frustrated for yet another entire weekend of hard work and long hours-just to fail again. Again he took me out to dinner, bought me a bouquet of flowers (I joked - I am only failing to get a nice dinner out of you! lol) If I really thought that I wasn't cut of for riding I would admit it, but the fact that I did so well on the last class (one of the better students) but froze during testing makes me think I should give it another try. I can't imagine sitting through yet another long weekend. I want to take a scooter to pass the test. Has anyone in NJ taken a scooter to the skills test? I hear it's fairly common. I just don't know what to do at this point. It's reassuring to know that I am not alone. Thanks for listening! Donna . . . 2 Timer! Dear
Donna, Ok, let's recap . . . the first time you took the course you LEARNED the basics of using a clutch. The second time you LEARNED and gained confidence in basic skills. Now, I'm not going to poo-poo your idea of using a scooter to pass the license test. Actually, that's exactly what I did back in 1979, having no clue that riding courses where even offered. So, I got my license on a 50cc putt-putt bike, but was saved because I was in the military, and in order to ride onto a base, I had to take their three day riding course on my full size Kawi 750. Enough said! But ask yourself this . . . is this how you really want to obtain your license? Wouldn't the congrats dinner be that much sweeter if you got the "M" by actually riding a clutch bike?! Remember, what you do here will set the tone for all future riding, so think it through carefully. The overall point is to LEARN! So, either borrow or buy a smaller bike to practice on and take the DMV test, or practice and ask the riding course if you can just take the skills test again (some do allow it). I would advise against taking the scooter shortcut, but if you do decide to go that route, ok, then get your license, and then get the Sporty or other beastie (if you buy a smaller bike) to a distraction free parking lot, set up the course with cones or tennis balls cut in half, and practice, practice, practice the drills you went through in the course. Mama Dear
VTwin Mama, Dear
Marsha, So, it's time to find help and a mentor. Why not check for VTwin Mama sisters in your area by going to my Let's Ride page . . . you could email and ask if they know of private instructors or if they themselves are in position to assist. Also, go to my Women's Sites page, find the women's riding organizations, hop onto their links, look for local chapters, and introduce yourself. Even if a chapter is not physically close to you, make contact any way. Believe me, these women understand where you are right now and can offer support. To help you plan out practice sessions, consider getting the Ride Like A Pro for the Ladies DVD . . . it will help enormously. Mention the VTwin Mama site and get $5 off the shipping/handling cost. Cone weaving, box turns, picking up the bike, etc. are explained in full detail and the basics for head and eye position are emphasized . . . it really makes that much of a difference! Now, off you go to make contact and move forward. You have the bike, you have the desire, and soon you will have the skills . . . Mama Tuesday, September 6 To Marsha who has lost her confidence after a less than awesome riding course experience: Mama is right! DO NOT LET ANYONE ELSE DICTATE YOUR LIFE!! Not every instructor is cut out to be one . . . I had one in my class that should have spent his time in the coffee shop . . . all he did was get frustrated with us and criticize. I have nothing but respect for the other instructor (we had 2). He was wonderful! If you made a mistake he explained and demonstrated how to correct it and when you did a good job you got an exuberant thumbs up and I know he truly meant it. I know it breaks your spirit when you are new and unsure of yourself. But find support in those who have been there. I have been. I dropped my first bike more than once. And I have since practiced and reached a level that I outgrew what I was riding and have since upgraded. And you can too. Only you can decide what's right for you. "Your altitude is determined by your attitude". So get back at it and don't give up. You will be glad in the end. The accomplishment and reward will make the result that much sweeter. And one day you will be on Mama's site helping someone else because you've been there. Rhonda from Springfield (note from Mama: the cornerstone of this site is riders sharing and caring. And the main message we impart time and time again is that YOU ARE NOT ALONE. Thanks for giving Marsha your vote of confidence!) Dear
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S., I'm thinking that you would greatly benefit by finding a mentor or two to help you sort out the challenges you are facing. As I know that I have a number of Chicago gals who read this site regularly, I asked your permission to post your email address, so that these women can get in contact with you. It's slockhart@vnuinc.com. Please also consider getting in contact with local women's riding organizations. For instance, I recently heard from Candy who oversees the Chicago Chrome Kitten Cruisers chapter of Women on Wheels. Why not email, say hi, let them know what's going on, and see what support might be available! Mama Dear
VTwin Mama, I failed the MSF really bad. It only took 1.5 hours. I think that is some sort of humiliating record. I'd never ridden before and I really wanted to switch from my pillion position behind my husband to driving my own bike. I was so excited when the driving part of the MSF started but I was worried when the bike they chose for me was so high I had to streach to touch with my tip toes. So, I had a heck of a time with the "power walk" part of the MSF and couldn't self walk the bike around the end of the rows. The instructor had to push me around. When I asked the instructor for another bike where I could reach the ground he said that they have small women ride fine all the time and his wife drives a Goldwing. His pushing me and now feeling that I was really failing got me so flustered that I made a mistake and dropped the bike. So, at the first break 1.5 hours in I left in tears. Now I feel stupid, intimidated and like actually a little scared to try again. Tell me VTwin Mama - how important was it for me to be able to flat foot or at least get to the ball of my foot while setting on the bike. Would another bike have helped or am I just being a baby and maybe this isn't for me. Thank you, Anna Slepecky Dear
Anna, Yes, an experienced rider can ride a bike if they are not flat footed to the ground, but a new rider who is just starting out is going to encounter additional problems of confidence if they can't even relax comfortably at a stop or do a power walk because their feet aren't firmly on terra firma! Not all instructors are created equal and I don't see how yours did you any favors. But what is the solution at this point? The first question is, was there actually another bike available at the course that would have allowed you to be flat footed? If you're not sure of the answer, I would do some research to find a smaller cc bike that would meet your requirements. This is easily done by visiting dealerships and sitting on bikes. Like the Honda Rebel or similar . . . you'll find some article links on the smaller bikes on my Type of Bike to Ride page in the left hand column. With that knowledge at hand, you could re-explore what bikes are available at the course, retake it, but specify that you want to work on a particular bike! If that course doesn't have bikes of the type you would need, are there other courses available? Some dealers do offer them and you could also check into private instruction. Or, if finances allow, buy a used bike that meets your needs, and have hubby get that beastie to an empty, distraction free parking lot, and get some practice time in. So, off you go to find the bike and then explore your options. You CAN DO IT . . . Mama Tuesday, September 20 For Anna who had a terrible experience at her riding course on a number of issues: Hi Anna -- My first instructor was a male also. He just could not understand why after 3 one hour lessons, I was not understanding the clutch throttle relationship. I could not get going. His comment to me was "This isn't for everybody. Maybe you'd be better off just riding on the back." I told him that he probably could not analyze a financial statement after only 3 hours of instruction and no additional education (practice). The owner operator then gave me to two female instructors for their assessment. Within the hour not only was I able to get into first gear and go, I was doing circles, using head and eyes and countersteering. I bought a Honda Rebel, practiced like crazy and got my license on the first try. Speak with the owner of the school. That person understands that sometimes certain people need specific instruction or needs and can assign an instructor that better fits you. If that school does not meet your needs find one that does. A new learner needs an instructor as well as a bike that fits them and their abilities. Also, hook up with a female riding group. You may not be able to ride with them right away, but the ladies will assist you in developing good techniques and safety skills. Best to you . . . Audrey L.I. (note from Mama: good ideas here to help Anna move forward, and a reminder to all that the main women's riding organizations can be found on my Women's Sites page.) I just wanted to chime in to encourage Anna, who tipped her bike during the MSF. First of all, I don't think her instructor was helpful at all, pushing her to continue to ride on a bike that was obviously too tall for her. They didn't do her any favors, and if they were conscientious, they would have pulled another bike out for her. Anna, take the course again, or find another course with a different company, but take it and you'll get through it. When I took my course in June, there were a handful of bikes in different sizes to choose from . . . Kawasakis, Hondas and Yamahas . . . and then there were some taller bikes. It helped that I got there early so that I had time to find the best one that fit me (I'm 5'0, 125 lbs). I tried out several before I found one that I felt comfortable on and I also wore boots with a solid 2 1/2" heel. Having a bike that fits makes all the difference in the world, especially when power walking, those bikes can get heavy if you don't have the leverage to push it properly. Don't give up, don't give in. Just so you know, I tipped my bike on the second part of the course, and the best thing to do is to get up and get on the bike again. You don't really fail the course unless you drop it during the test . . . so in my book, dear, you didn't fail, you were practicing. I was able to pass the test and bought a Honda Shadow VLX 600 about a month later. It's taking me a bit to get used to her . . . she's got more juice than the 125's and 250's from the class, but like Mama says . . . practice, practice, practice!!! I have to admit that there were many times that I thought that my Shadow was too big for me and I should have gotten a smaller bike, but my stubbornness prevented me from giving up on her and me. I've tipped her three times so far, each time was when I had stopped at a stop sign. I realize now that I was turning my front wheel when I came to the stop signs, which just encouraged her to tip!!! Since then, I've lowered her suspension and found the best way to position myself on the seat when I come to a stop sign (sliding forward toward the tank so that I'm centered above my legs) and also make sure to keep my front wheel straight! I'm happy to say that I haven't tipped since, practice practice practice!!! We just got back from the Las Vegas BikeFest, and I had put in enough hours on my Shadow (riding around and around and around the neighborhood) that I was able to confidently ride around town with my hubby (Harley Dyna WideGlide) and my dad (Honda Shadow 750). We even took a morning ride out to Red Rock Canyon . . . absolutely incredible. I haven't ridden on the freeways yet, but I'm getting there. One thing for sure, I won't go until I'm ready . . . practice practice practice!!! So Anna, don't give up . . . if it is something you really want to do, just find the right bike and get back on that seat! Mama, thank you for this site. I continue to be inspired by all of your wonderful readers. All the best! Lynjoy (note from Mama: thanks for the expanded view on courses that in fact do offer a wider variety of bikes to ride and how your own adventure is going . . . I am soooo proud of you!) Tuesday, September 20 Dear
VTwin Mama, Also I just found out the local chapter of Gold Wingers will come give a basic safety course to interested groups. I went to a course they gave at my local Honda dealers and got the chance to learn how to pick up your bike in case of a lay down. The bike I picked up was a fully dressed Wing. Wow- it was a big surprise how easy it was to do! Dorathy Biddinger Dear
Dorathy, Wednesday, September 21 More for Anna who struggled in her riding course: Anna, YOU are paying the riding school, they are NOT paying you. If you are not happy with the instructor, insist on another or ask for your money back and assure them you will not return to them for instruction. The funny thing is I have never heard complaints about a Sydney riding school or an instructor. Guys here are ecstatic that women want to ride bikes and do all they can to help them. Few women ride here, though slowly that's changing. Go find another instructor mate and good luck, you can and will pass that course. Terri, an Australian mobike instructor (note from Mama: good point for all those contemplating taking a course!) For Donna who is working on her license, but does she take the course a third time?; As always, love your site! (thanks!) Just want to mention that I officially became a VTwin Mama myself recently - I went out and bought myself a Harley Street Bob!!! She is an awesome bike, I love it so much. I am 5'3", 125lbs and this bike is almost perfect for us more vertically challenged women. I say "almost" because she definitely needs to be lowered a bit, I have a hard time backing her up (okay, I can't back her up at all, my boyfriend needs to push me, LOL) but other than that, she is a dream. Anyway, for Donna . . . 2 timer who is frustrated about not passing MSF course twice: Donna didn't say where she lives, but I took the course at Sussex County Community college and I had the BEST instructor named Scott Culligan. He really wanted everyone to succeed. I too, choked on the test portion when I was doing so well on the practice run. I think the only reason I passed was because I practiced a lot in a parking lot prior to taking the course. I agree with you, she should take the Sporty or another bike to the parking lot and practice with her husband on her weak points, She could do this and then maybe go take the DMV test after a while of practicing, obviously Donna has the skills needed to ride. Also - I learned to ride on Buell Blast, it is the perfect first bike for any woman that has no riding experience, it is light (360 pounds) and only 500 cc's. She is easy to maneuver too. Barring buying another bike, she might want to look into lowering the Sporty to make it easier for her. I don't know what Harley will do, but maybe a shop that does custom cycles can help her out more, they can do some creative chopping for her. Doreen from NJ (note from Mama: congrats on your new bike and thanks for sharing some insights with Donna!) Tuesday, October 11 For S. Lockhart who reported she failed her course three times and needed advice: Learning how to ride safely can be frustrating, but well worth the effort! When I took the MSF class through Harley Davidsons Rider's Edge program, it ranked right up there with some of the hardest days in my life, so you can understand my disappointment when I failed my initial DMV exam for stalling two feet off of the starting line. However, the next week I returned and managed to pass even though I had fear in the back of my head the entire time. As they say, practice makes perfect . . . but also a safety net of some seasoned riders can make you feel more comfortable. I agree with VTwin Mamas suggestion of checking out local riding organizations and groups to meet more people who ride. The Women on Wheels organization changed my life and Ive met some incredible women and gained some valuable experience in riding and in life! Candy Kitten -- Chrome Kitten Cruisers, Chicago, a WOW chapter (note from Mama: thanks for your message of support and noting the difference joining a specific women's riding organization made to your riding experience! Additional women's riding groups can be found on my Women's Sites page.) Tuesday, October 11 Dear
VTwin Mama, I first started out as you suggested. I mapped out a route around my neighborhood in my car and then had my husband follow me on his bike. Each day I was able to go a little further and a little faster, a few more intersections and then eventually out on the country highways. I did everything I could in advance of going, from planning my entrance and exit from the gas station, where and how to park and my route there and back home. I change the route each time I went to include four way stops, yields, lights, hills, school zones, anything and everything that would offer me experience at a speed at which I felt I comfortable. I practiced everyday that I could and in three weeks had my license. We each have different abilities and just taking a training course doesn't mean that you're ready to ride. Confidence in your own ability to handle the bike and the situations in traffic has a lot to do with it. Again, thanks for your positive approach and advice to new riders. Yesterday I traveled 100 km (all by myself, for the first time) to meet up with friends and ride for the day and then back home. Oh, how I love riding this bike, I should have done this years ago! Sharon Dear
Sharon, Wednesday, October 12 Dear
VTwin Mama, I want to thank each person that had encouraging words. I will continue to practice until I'm better at riding. Sooo! How do you like me now?! For those having a tough time, if I can do it, you can to. Keep at it. S. Lockhart Dear M.
(with much glee!), Monday, October 17 From Donna in NJ who didn't pass her course twice, but look at her now: I wrote back in September saying that I was 42 and failed 2 attempts at a rider ed. motorcycle class. I was about to just take a scooter to take the basic skills test or simply give up completely. VTwin Mama , you encouraged me to try another attempt . . . and I made it!!! I just went to my third weekend long course and passed!! I can't tell you how much I smiled driving on my way home from the class! The instructor was super patient and took in consideration all the road work done that weekend. I also felt better because 7 women were in the class. Two of them dropped out (one after the first night and the other dropped the bike and decided it wasn't for her). The first time I took the course I really learned the basics. The second time I learned how to shift. By the time I took it for a third time I was a shifting goddess and finally felt comfortable using BOTH brakes when stopping. It was worth it! I am getting a used Savage to putt around in until I feel at ease. I won't have to worry about ruining a new bike and can just focus on my skills. The bike is smaller and I feel more in control than with my Sportster. My hope is that by Spring I'll be better equipped physically and mentally to ride the bike of my choosing. I really intend to practice every week so I don't lose the skills I worked so hard at. So hopefully they'll be some nice winter days! Thank you so much for your encouragement! And to all of you who have lost your confidence after dropping a bike, failing the test, or simply a bad experience, all I can say is hang in there . . . if this is your dream, your goal, and your desire . . . you can do it! Donna in New Jersey (note from Mama: I am so super proud of you, especially for choosing to continue your journey with a clutch bike instead of taking a scooter just so you could pass the course. I bet that the congrats dinner with your husband, who has so lovingly supported you through all of this, was a real jump-up-and-down event! Now, don't lose heart if the weather keeps you from riding some this winter . . . I advocate sitting on a kitchen chair, closing your eyes, and envisioning specific rides, using your hands and feet to mimic the ride. See yourself coming to a stop and actually using your hands and feet to clutch, shift, and brake correctly. See yourself successfully handling different skills and you won't feel like you've left it too far behind. It will make a big difference when you can get on the bike when weather allows! Again, congrats and many happy roads ahead of you! I'm glad the VTwin Mama site was there to help you!) Tuesday, October 18 Dear
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Hubby, There are two main ways to learn to ride: 1) get a bike and learn by trial and error and 2) sign up for an accredited course or private instruction.. 1) In the case of just hopping on, which I did in 1979, any small cc bike will do as long as the rider is comfortable with the arm/leg reach to the controls and feet-to-ground at a stop. For street bikes, consider the Virago 250, Honda Rebel 250, and read this road test article about more in that class! The point is to get on, learn to shift and brake, handle starts and stops, turns, curves, etc. This is best done in a distraction-free zone . . . your land, an empty parking lot, etc. Once the basics are familiar, then it's time to set up cones or tennis balls cut in half. Cone weaves, figure 8s, box turns, etc. My only concern about the dirt is the wheel traction is a bit more iffy and unintentional rear wheel slide outs are more likely to happen. My other concern is your ability as a teacher . . . do you have patience, are you a good listener, can you look at one learning point and teach it in a number of ways so the message can be absorbed? If your wife agrees to go this route, then take the time to map out exact steps . . . each lesson with a specific point, an agreement on how she'll tell she's had enough for the day, etc. No fudging here . . . write it down . . . add rewards . . . be honest . . . talk it out. If you start this way and it's not working, then it's on to 2) with NO recriminations. You did not fail, it's just not the right pathway for her! 2) Your wife can sign-up for a riding course. There is a distinction between riding courses and safety courses. A riding course is designed to specifically help a person learn everything from the get -go. In this case, you may want to contact local and near-local dealers to see if they offer one (Harley dealers often offer them, start the rider out on their Buell Blast) . . . make sure to ask specific questions and address your wife's level. Now, the Motorcycle Safety Foundation offers its Basic Rider Course nationwide. Although they do teach new riders the very basics, the emphasis is on riding safely, and many riders find they need to take the course several times as not all people find learning the whole clutch/gear shift thing so easy! And not all instructors are created equal. The pace is fast, there is not a lot of time to practice, and then boom, the test is being given. Bikes are usually 125cc or 250cc street bikes. Courses fill up fast and depending on where you live, may already have ceased for this year. Contact them and get signed-up now! If you think private instruction may be the way to go, then ask them if one of the course instructors gives private lessons on the side! Ok, with this honest dialog from me, it's time to have a heart-to-heart with your wife. Listening is the key and abiding by her wishes is necessary. This is HER experience and she needs to proceed in a manner that her gut instinct tells her is the best FOR HER. As you've taken the time to write in, I have no doubt that the two of you will be able to forge ahead together. I'm so excited and can't wait for you both to write in when she has her "M" license in hand and her own bike . . . and make sure to send a picture! Mama Hi
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Nikki, A 750cc bike is a good mid-range bike and quite frankly, that's how I started back in 1979 . . . just got that size bike and started learning! I will add though that because I was in the Navy at the time, they required that I take a riding course with that bike in order to ride on base. It was a very good thing to do! You may wish to check into the MSF Experienced Rider Course to further polish your beginning skills, but on these specific bikes. Alternatively, you could gain insights by checking into the DVDs from Ride Like a Pro to strengthen what you learned in your first course. Mention the VTwin Mama site and get $5 off the shipping/handling cost! If you prefer reading up on things, there are a number of excellent books on the subject . . . you can find these on my Education Center page. The overall point is that you're interested in learning, and becoming totally one with the beastie is important . . . so get some more input from experienced sources. Why learn your next lessons the hard way?! Happy riding you two . . . it's a grand life adventure! Mama Dear
VTwin Mama, I just read the entry from the woman who just passed the MSF course . . . we're already having anxiety about going back. Not because of any fears, but the way it was being run. We went with Orlando Harley, because some people suggested it over the safety council. Big mistake . . . we gave in because of the heat last month, but honestly the class was anything but fun. I can't believe her course ran over two weekends. That would be so much easier for a new rider. We were under the impression that the instructors would actually teach you the techniques, but when we went they were definitely treating the class as if we were supposed to already be riders, but there to be tested on the exercises. They weren't taking the time to teach us anything, and it was stressful trying to keep up with what they were saying regarding the next exercise. I really thought I was doing the right thing by going for the course, but I wish we had taken it anywhere BUT Harley. They're squeezing into 5 hours what other courses do in 8. We can't get our money back of course, so we're going back there, but getting more and more anxious about it. I've read enough message boards to realize that a lot of people have mixed experiences with this course. I just hope we have different instructors this time. I guess I'm not stressed about passing or failing . . . I won't feel too bad if I fail, considering how the class was done. I fully expect to go back, and like before, be shown the exercise, such as the tight U-turn, ONCE, before being expected to perform it . . . hahaha . . . I would have found it ridiculously funny if I weren't about to pass out from the heat at the time last month! We decided that this dealership believes in the Darwin philosophy of rider education . . . Ah well . . . it was nice to see someone having a good experience though. Funny that central Florida is such a big bike area, and yet you'd think would have better rider education. I feel a little better just having my own bike now, and having a better sense of where everything is. We're using the Buell Blasts for that class, and I think I had trouble with the bike simply because it's small and the footpegs are not in a comfortable position for me at 6 ft tall. By the time I found the damn pegs, we were coming to a stop in the class . . . hahaha. Shall I say it again . . . I love my bike . . . just can't wait to actually ride it! Though sitting on it in the garage isn't so bad . . . a friend calls it a very expensive chair though. I don't care . . . I've waited all these years to have one and I'd have it in the house if I could get away with it. Take care, Kat Dear
Kat, Kat, in your case, if you haven't addressed your disappointment with the Harley dealer, I would do so if you feel the course was misrepresented to you. Since you can't get your money back, I'd take it again and use it as a practice session. I'd also insist on a different instructor, meet them, talk it out, etc. Still, you might surprise yourself and do very well the second time at it . . . simply because your initial foray into it has happened and hopefully the weather will not be such a huge factor this time. If necessary, then investigate other courses in the area and use the guidelines above. For instance, the MSF runs a SAFETY course, which is designed to teach safety, not basic riding. Yes, they take on new riders with no experience, and some will find a natural talent so that they pass the first time, but you are certainly NOT ALONE if a second course is needed. I still feel the MSF doesn't really clearly state this on their site, but calling ahead (on any offered course) and talking it out should reveal the more in-depth insights needed to see if it's right for you! I'm sure you'll find your pathway as you have a beautiful bike waiting for you! Mama Thursday, November 10 Dear
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Penney, Monday, November 14 Dear
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Mama, I still haven't done much with the bike . . . I work a midshift, so get home after dark, and haven't had a chance to call the insurance agent. I was so itching today to try riding it around our subdivision, but I'm being good for now. Our cul-de-sac is perfect for practicing slow turns though, so I'll be trying that when I have a couple of days off this week. I still may not pass the test, but at least I have a better sense of the techniques now . . . he even took the fear out of U turns! Excellent instructor . . . I am finding one problem with the Suzuki M50 . . . it's basically a Marauder, but some things are changed, so I haven't found aftermarket accessories yet to fit, other than the overpriced Suzuki ones. Even saddlebags made to fit the Marauder evidently don't fit this bike the same because of the shorter fender . . . oh well, I can dress it up later! Kat Dear
Kat, As to aftermarket accessories . . . yes, with the newest model bikes, it takes a bit of time for these companies to step up to the plate and offer their extra goodies. I checked quickly and will note that the 2006 catalogs are not yet out for JP Cycles and Dennis Kirk, two of the bigger aftermarket companies . . . I'll keep monitoring that as they are free and great to have. Hopefully the new Boulevards will be represented! Mama Monday, November 14 Dear
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Maggy, Monday, November 21 Hey
Mama, Anyways, yesterday was my first ride. Nervous as can be. We rode 55 miles. I LOVE it!! We started off early in the a.m. w/no traffic. By the time we came back traffic was booming but I was feeling a little more confident. I experienced gravel, wet roads, u-turns etc.. I am still nervous as hell, but looking forward to the next ride and my safety course. Your site is incredible and I don't feel alone in my feelings. I live in Ft. Lauderdale & the drivers here are completely nuts!! All encouragement is welcome. Thanks. Andrea Dear
Andrea, I'm guessing you are taking a safety course in which you'll be riding your own bike and working on your skills . . . this is very sister smart! Although light-traffic riding is good, practice sessions in an empty parking lot is still a good idea for you. It gives you a chance to really work on your slower maneuver skills so that you are one with the beastie. There you can fine tune how the bike feels using different brake combinations, the friction zone for control, how counter-steering feels on your bike (to handle the curves at higher speeds) and precise stopping and starting skills. I'll simply note that when I purchased my latest bike, I went to an empty lot and did some box turns, cone weaves, slow races (friction zone control of the bike at the slowest speed possible) and wiggle tests (side to side swoops) to see how that particular bike handled. It serves me well each and every time I go out in the real world! And this is with 26 year of riding experience! You'll be in much better position to concentrate on traffic issues if you have the basics nailed down to an art form! Consider adding some practice time in along with your course and longer rides. Each piece of the puzzle makes a wonderful "whole" experience! Welcome back to the "club" . . . I look forward to hearing how it's going and maybe you'll send in a picture of you and the bike! Mama Monday, November 21 Dear
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Mama, Long story short, we passed! And found out in the process that the maneuvers that looked the most frightening (evasive swerve, weaving, the u-turns), were actually fun! We both had so much fun weaving and swerving, last night we found a really close parking lot where we'll be able to practice. I still need to finish up the insurance on my bike, but I couldn't resist and took her for my first ride around our subdivision (about 2 miles). Wow! All the techniques just felt natural at that point on a bike more suited to my tall height. That M50 was smoooooth around curves, and I even took it into a cul-de-sac and did a u-turn fairly well considering this is a much bigger bike than the Buell. So everything I've read on your site was the absolute truth . . . the course is what it is . . . having the right instructors to make a stressful situation fun AND safe is what makes or breaks it. We took the class at the very same place we had a nightmarish experience last month, and this time had a blast. We still had half the class fail, but not by much, and only one person stormed off in a huff because of it. The rest are very willing to come right back and try again, so that said something to me about their experience with these instructors as well. One interesting note is that they told us they keep track through the DMV of all of their students. So far neither of these instructors have gotten the information that any of their students were in a fatal accident. Had no idea they kept track of those kind of records. So now I have to wait ALL week to get back on the bike, because of my work schedule . . . not a bad idea, it'll take that long to get the soreness out of all the leg muscles I didn't know I had! hahaha Thank you for all of your encouragement. As soon as I get to the DMV tomorrow morning, I guess I'll officially be part of a club I've watched all these years. Kat Dear
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Mama, So I carefully eased the bike to the end of the lot and as I started to turn around, I grabbed the front brake and dumped the bike. Of course he came RUNNING to see if the BIKE was hurt!!! He thinks I can just get on it and go. Needless to say he left me standing in the parking lot with helmet in hand and of course the whole neighborhood watching. Yesterday I told him that I wanted to take the riding course. His reply was "If I can't teach you then you can't be taught." Now I'm stuck with a bike that I can't ride. I keep trying to make him understand that I need to get use to the weight of the bike since I've never ridden one this big and I'm a small person. I want very much to ride but if I go ahead and take the course, then he'll know where I spent the money. Got any suggestions on how I can learn to ride this thing on my own??? Sharon, Down in the dumps in New Mexico Dear
Sharon, To learn on your own you still need a source of information that will guide you. As money (any money for this purpose) appears to be an issue, let's see what we can do. Bikes are first gear down, all other gears up. So you pull in the clutch lever, shift, and slowly ease out the clutch while it giving it just a little gas. If it stalls, not to worry, just be ready for the "bump" feeling, start the bike again (in neutral) and try, try again. You use the front brake when braking in a straight line. This is where 75% of your braking power is. Try that first to get the feel. You use the rear brake in combination when in a straight line when the stop has to be faster, but never "jam" on either. Jamming a rear brake will tend to make the rear end skid out from behind you. Try the combo gently next to get the feel. Now, still in a straight line, weave the bike in big, long sweeps to the left and right a little off the straight line. Get the feel of the bike as you weave. When negotiating a turn, your head and eyes must focus on where you wish to end up and it's the rear brake used lightly that will help keep the bike upri |
