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2005 (July to . . . October 18) Friday, July 1 For Mary T. who has had some oopsies and may want to switch to a trike: Wonder if you will get a barrage of emails on this one. If we can't make mistakes, that would be a different story. It doesn't sound like she made mistakes going at a speed she couldn't handle. It also sounds like she is possibly being more directed by her husband's reactions to the mistakes than the mistakes themselves. Is it really his desire to have a trike? And if that is what she wants, great! I agree with you, I don't think she would have taken the time to write to you if she didn't have a doubt. I bought Motorman's Ride Like a Pro for the Ladies and Ride Like a Pro III. Both are amazing and I would suggest both. RLaP III goes more in depth and shows his wife and son riding in the video. I also bought Street Strategies 1,2 & 3 DVDs. I bought Proficient Motorcycling by David Hough and Total Control by Lee Parks. Both seem to be great books and Total Control may look like it is for sport bikes, but it is for all kinds of bikes. All of this might be too basic, but the refresher might be worth it. I loaned my DVDs to a friend who noticed my practicing head turning techniques so he was curious. He has been riding for years. That was a confidence boost, he supported me and noticed he could be learning something new. He reported back improvement in his counterbalancing and head turning. (find these DVDs and books on my Education Center page) 16,000 miles! Goodness, I have about 300 under my belt and have been on my own bike for about 5 weeks (big city, 1 mile = 20 haha) and don't have nearly the experience she has. I bet she has oodles of experience under her belt. I talked to a guy who has been riding for 9 years and said when he brought his new BMW home, he dropped it in the garage, wasn't used to the bike being more top heavy. I hope Mary sees how many of us support her desire to ride and don't let this put a cap on her adventures and now feel like she isn't finding her path, not her husband's. I don't know the man and have not place to judge. There are always two sides to a story and he very well might be in the right. I hope she considers finding someone to take a private lesson or two and work on mountain driving. And if she does get a trike, go for it. Sometimes we find out what we don't want by trying it out and it solidifies our confidence in what we do want. Motorcycling is a continuing education course. It is refreshing to think that even with 16,000, there are still things to learn. When we think we know it all, we become unsafe. Mary, you go and spread your wings, on a 2 wheeled Gold Wing if that is what YOU want. Sincerely, – Sandra (note from Mama: thanks for reminding Mary that she needs to dig deep within herself to determine what's really at the core of her own desires regarding riding . . . you are right, there are so many sources for support and learning!) Friday, July 1 Dear
VTwin Mama, Well . . . I got a 2005 Harley 883L Sportster. Oh my heavens! I LOVE it. I took a riding course last year but only learned on a scooter. I must have been paying attention. I got on the Sportster, rode around the block and I was off and running. My husband has been riding with me, but I went by myself to Jazzercise and did just find. I just want to pass along to ANYONE who wants to learn to ride, "I wish I would of done it sooner." I am 55 years old and love the feel of my own bike. The view is so much different as the rider!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The bike is not yet 2 weeks old and I have 200 miles on her!! – Margie Winstead Dear
Margie, Tuesday, July 12 For Robin and her Newbie Rider site: I checked our Miss Robins site and found it very neat and pretty. I appreciate a women's mc site. I did feel like the bikes for beginners and short riders was confining. I am 5'3 and 30 days on a 250 was enough. I feel like a 500 Buell or something like it would have kept me contented for a much longer time and been easier on my money than trading up so soon. (hindsight) IMHO Thank you Mama, – Patti (note from Mama: glad you like Robin's site and thanks for sharing your thoughts on beginning bikes. Yes, choosing the first bike can be tough . . . don't want to go too big, but for some, you can outgrow it quickly. This is difficult to gauge because each new rider has a different learning curve. Congrats on your own journey . . . it sounds like it going just fine . . . and if it's any consolation, you'll trade up to your next bike and simply say, well, I learned something from that!) Thursday, July 14 Dear
VTwin Mama, Dear
Tinker, A new site that has lots of useful info for new riders is Newbie Rider. Also, check my Useful Sites page for other beginning biker sites. This should help you streamline your research. And, on my Type of Bike to Ride page, you'll find links to articles comparing the lower cc range bikes available. Good luck on making the transition! – Mama Dear
VTwin Mama, Dear
Ree, I would advise that you take a riding course first so that you can truly gauge how you're going to handle a bike . . . it's very illuminating getting on a 250cc bike and working through the course . . . and finding out how much needs to be learned to become a truly good rider. If you decide to start on the bigger bike, then you need to find someone to ride that bike to an empty parking lot with minimal obstacles for your beginning practice sessions. Yes, some people "take" to riding very easily . . . but that's just the mechanics. Of super importance is knowing the proper techniques needed to avoid problems as they crop up on your ride (critters, idiot cage drivers, impatient traffic situations, crap on the road, weather conditions, taking curves at higher speeds . . . just to name a few). You could check with the riding courses to see if an instructor offers private lessons. Still, learning on a bigger bike can be done . . . I know, because I did it on a Kawi 750. You might want to consider getting a few DVDs from the Ride Like a Pro company . . . they have one for absolutely new riders, then one for slow maneuvers, one for advanced techniques, and one for surviving the "mean" streets. Please "invest" in yourself one way or the other! It's truly a beautiful world out there on a motorcycle, especially when you've practiced the skills that will help you become the best rider you can be. – Mama Monday, July 25 For Ree who is considering an 1100cc bike to start on: I am a bit older than you (49), but also 5'6". I started riding 2 years ago. I heartily endorse VTwin Mama's advice to take the safety course. Like she said, you will find there's plenty to learn on a 250cc. If you buy too big a bike to start, it may be so long before you "grow into it" that it could be a very discouraging experience. As soon as I finished the safety course, I couldn't wait to get home & hop on my husband's 1985 Honda 500cc Magna V30. I was going to show him how much I knew! Well, I didn't get out the driveway before I dropped it. I braked when I should have accelerated, I looked at the ground instead of straight ahead, I was dragging my feet on the ground & wobbling like crazy -- I could go on & on. A multitude of rookie mistakes. My first bike (that I DIDN'T drop) was an inexpensive 1978 Honda CB400 automatic. I owned it for about 7 months & loved it. I was able to improve my skills, & then bought a 1993 Kawasaki Vulcan 750. After about a year, I got a 1997 Honda Shadow Spirit 1100. Now I'm ready for it & it is a real joy to ride. This may be my "forever" bike. Take the safety course, be patient, & if money's an issue, make sure your first bike is an older model that won't break the bank. You will outgrow it but probably not in 2 weeks! I wish you well! Good riding!! – Wendy, Sturgis Biker Mom (note from Mama: again, gauging how fast a new rider will grow out off, or grow into, a bike is hard to say exactly. But I second the thought that frustration in learning because a bike is too big is much worse than one that is too small and outgrown and needs to be sold again!) Monday, July 25 Dear
VTwin Mama, No way! It was too big and top heavy for my 4' 11" frame. I told him I needed something smaller. That's where your site came in handy. I read that a lot of women had learned on smaller 250 cc bikes. Well, I found a used Virago 250, only 3 years old and low kms. I took it out this week for the first time and had a blast. I can't wait to get back on it and practice, practice, practice. My hubby is very supportive and extra careful when I ride. I hope to upgrade in a season or two to a larger bike. All in baby steps . . . – Mini Dear
Mini, Tuesday, July 26 Dear
VTwin Mama, I ride a lot with my best friend, she has a Shovel, and it has been very enlightening to have a fellow female rider show me the ropes. I have put 1500 miles on the Virago, traveled all over NW Ohio, and am now ready to move up to a bigger bike. These are some things that I have learned, the Virago is slow at the start but will catch up to the bigger bikes, it rides great on the highway, even at 75 mph, but the wind tends to push you around. When riding 200 miles in a day I have to stop for gas several times. Make sure your kickstand is locked before you let go of the bike, don't cock the front wheel when you come to a stop, and keep your knees tight to the tank when you go around a corner. I have dropped the bike four times and learned valuable lessons each time not making the same mistake twice. The Virago is easy to pick up by myself at only 350 lbs. It is a beautiful bike and most people think it is a 650cc instead of 250cc, it actually looks like a Sporty on a smaller scale. I paid $2000 for it and added a small windshield from Universal Shield (cost $100) which was a godsend for the highway. I recently found a '01 HD 883 Hugger that is owned by a woman who had an accident with it and is now afraid of it, she rides with her husband and has decided that is enough for her. It has 508 miles on it (not even broke in yet!) and she wants to sell it to me for $4100. I can't pass that up so I am now looking for a buyer for my Virago and will sell it for $2000. I was concerned at first about the 883 as everyone told me that they are top heavy and hard to control. I did not find this to be true when I took the bike out for a couple rides. I am flat footed at a stop and had no problem with balance. I do need to change to forward controls as the pegs are in a bad spot for me and hit me in the ankles when I come to a stop. I was going to use the Virago for my first year and look to upgrade over the winter, but since finding the 883 have decided to move up this summer, hoping to have the new bike and some time in the seat before Chillicothe at the end of this summer! I am now feeling totally comfortable riding and can attribute this to the ease of riding the Virago. I will send a pic of the new bike when I get it. – Melissa Dear
Melissa, Tuesday, August 2 Dear
VTwin Mama, Dear
Deb, The first best step is to take a riding course. Some bigger local dealers offer them, you can check your Yellow Pages, or hop onto the Motorcycle Safety Foundation's site to check for classes near you. You'll be started out on a 125cc or 250cc bike. This gives you a chance to see how you do, how comfortable you feel, and how you would like to proceed. If you take to it like a duck in water, then a good place to start your research for the bike that would work for you is my Motorcycles for Short Riders page. Here are bikes listed by make/model, rider's height, and notes on modifications that are most likely needed. It's time to shop! If you found that you're not quite ready for a higher power bike, consider sticking with a 250cc bike like the Honda Rebel or Virago 250. Buy one used, get your practice time in, then sell it when you're ready to move up! Comparison article links on the 250cc bikes can be found on my Type of Bike to Ride page. It can be hard to pick up a bike if you don't know the basic technique that keeps it simple. Take a look at the Pick Up the Bike page for article links . . . that have step-by-step instructions with pictures. Now you'll understand that it is doable! So, off you go to start your research and plan out the steps you feel will serve you best! We can't wait till we can give you a biker wave out on the road! – Mama Wednesday, August 3 Dear
VTwin Mama, Well, I have a new love now and feel so powerful on this bike, not to mention the ease of an electric start and shaft drive (no more chain to oil!). Going from a 750 to a 1600 made all the difference in the world, but I was ready. If I had started out on a bigger bike and tried to learn all the important aspects of riding, I would have been overwhelmed. Just wish I had started riding earlier in life (took the class at 50), but plan keeping on as long as I can sling my leg over. So - I have this beautiful brand new baby with 1,000 miles on her. Got up Saturday morning for a good, long ride and checked the air pressure in my tires. I found the back tire 5 lbs low. I was sick when I found a nail. Took her to the dealer and after $245, was back on the road. Just a reminder to do your routine check before every ride. The $245 is nothing compared to a flat tire in the middle of nowhere, not to mention the risk of it going flat on the freeway at a high speed. Love your site and read it every single day. Faithful Reader, – Pat in Houston Dear
Pat, Monday, August 8 Dear
VTwin Mama, My
motive is we do a lot of long distant riding; it is not unusual for us to
take a 1200 mile trip. We have had two or three trips over 2500 miles.
On the interstates if feel my bike really winding out, especially
after 65-70 mph. The manufacture says the bike will do that all day
long, but I feel the push. So I was considering something with
more horsepower. I really love my Aero 750 and I am very comfortable
on it even after I had a crash on the Dear
Kay-T, Dear
VTwin Mama, The
reason I'm so aware of that is my children (ages 20 & 23) share a 1986
Kawi 454LTD. Before the course while I was still on permit I tried that
bike. The seat was low and I could flat-foot so I thought I'd be golden,
right? WRONG! It's very chopper-like with the front of the gas tank swept
up high. I came to a stop sign and promptly fell over. I know just sitting
on a bike in a showroom is different that actually being out there riding
and I don't want to get something that I can't handle. What do you think?
Thanks much, Dear
Shirley, Tuesday, August 16 For Shirley who is looking at bikes and I noted test rides/renting might be a good path: I am
5’4” but only have a 28” inseam (on a good day). I had a Virago 250
and recently upgraded to a Suzuki C-50—similar to Volusia 800. I find it
a pleasure to ride. However, as it is only 4 days old to me, I still have
some “getting use to.” It’s about 455lbs. but the weight is low to
the ground & it is well balanced. It is gentle getting into 1st gear
and supplied enough power to get on the highway safely. It takes
more to turn it compared to the lightweight Virago, and I‘m still not
100% confident to do a one foot touch-down at stops. I still avoid steep
hills (but I did that on the Virago too—which is a nice challenge in
hilly I am
considering a gel seat made for this bike which lowers it 1”. If that
doesn’t do the trick I have read reviews of people successfully lowering
it up to 2” without sacrificing lean angle with lowering kits. Did I
mention it is EFI, liquid cooled & has a shaft drive—great
features/technology for less than $7K. Here’s
what I did to test drive the bike. I was nervous to test it so I
asked a buddy (a veteran rider of a ’94 HD Low Rider) to ride my Virago
& I told her what I liked / disliked & told her what I was looking
for in a new bike: I wanted a bike that would have enough power to get me
on the highway, had a wide tank that I could squeeze with my legs around
to relax my hands on the grips, could stay in 1st while I
was turning at a stop sign—I just got to annoyed with the Virago’s 1st
-3rd in under 20mph, was well balanced, and the bike had to
handle well. My friend then took the C-50 out & came back with rave
reviews. Four days later it was mine ;-) The
trick to good riding is to practice…and this is a bike that MAKES me
want to ride!! It looks good & rides like a heavyweight. Lots of
chrome too. If you want a cruiser this is the ticket! Wednesday, August 17 Dear
VTwin Mama, Dear
Heidi, I don't know. Ok, ok . . . what I really mean is that there are soooo many makes and models out there and so many factors that figure into the decision making process. So, let's get started. If you've never ridden before, take a class. Check with the local dealers, the community college, or hop onto the MSF site. Bikes are most often referred to by their cc (cubic centimeter) displacement, which is the amount of power available. Many new riders like to start on a smaller 250cc bike (like the one used in riding courses), get some practice time in, and then trade up. Others know they'll quickly outgrow that, so they start in the midrange on a 600cc bike. Others just get a big bike (think over 1000cc here) and get their start there. It's all about what you think you can handle. It's also about what type of riding you envision doing: short trips around town, day trips, long hauls. And, do you prefer a sporty look or a cruiser look? Another biggee consideration is when you sit on the bike, are you flat footed and are you reaching to get your hands and feet on the controls? Bikes can be lowered, seats can be changed to a lower profile, and controls can be repositioned (so, if you really fall in love with a bike, modifications can be made to make it just right for you). If you are a shorter rider (I define that as 5'5" and under ), then check my Motorcycles for Short Riders list to get some ideas. Sportys had gained a relatively bad rap as they were mainly marketed towards women, but had one of the highest seat heights and high center of gravity (COG). The COG (where the center of the bike's weight is, therefore, the engine area) is important because when the bike moves around a turn or curve, it moves around it's COG. The higher COG, the more work and/or skill it takes to handle. Newer Sportys are lower, but not the lowest. With these basic thoughts in mind, it's time to head to a motorcycle show, visit dealers, and you can also use the Want Facts site to get basic specs. Choose Research New, Motorcycles, Search by Feature, to narrow down the search. Happy shopping! – Mama Dear
VTwin Mama, As excited and encouraged as I WAS about your emails, my husband was not. I read every single word in the letters from you. I read other things I had printed out from your site to him. He did not agree (he always thinks he knows better then me, and usually he doesn't). Anyway, I dug in my heels, I was not getting back on that big bike until my ribs had healed, then took my MSF Class, and he got me something smaller for awhile!! WELL, by Aug. 13th I had found and bought a 250 Honda Rebel and had no trouble riding it( I was not afraid of it one single second), on the 20th and 21st I took my MSF and passed without trouble. YEA!!!!! I have put on about 250 miles on the Rebel!!! I love riding and seem to not have any trouble handling the littler bike. Now my problem, I am just way too big for that Rebel. I am 5' 11" and 220lbs. That poor little bike takes a toll pulling around my butt!!! It takes forever to get it up to 60mph. I have got to get on the Volusia. I have ridden it around in the yard a couple of times. I haven't dropped it but boy does it feel very big, heavy, and the handlebars are so far out that I feel like I don't have much control. I have been wanting to sell it and go back down to something like a 600 Shadow, but in the state of Minnesota it takes 3-4 months for a title to be processed and I am only on 7 weeks or so. Also all these men salesmen hear my story and tell my husband he is right . . . that I should just overlook the big tank and awkward handlebars and I should shut up and just ride. In a way I know that it is a mental thing, but am I a safe responsible rider if I go out on 2.5 miles of gravel on a bike that just plain freaks me out? I trust you and your other readers to tell me women to women what to do here. I have been reading all your entries and am absorbing every word. Thanks for all you do for everyone here. And I also would love to buy a copy of your book when you are published. – Angeleyes121389, aka Heidi in Minnesota Dear
Heidi, I wouldn't give up on that Volusia quite yet. All the bigger bikes are going to be heavier, but you could fix that handlebar situation pretty easily. If the only thing is that you're reaching forward for the controls then check into a pullback riser. It will bring the handlebar back towards you. They come in different configurations of how much pullback and be careful because the cables have to stretch that far also. But it's cheap and easy to do. If the bar is actually too wide from side to side, then you need a need handlebar . . . read this article from J&P Cycle about how to measure the old one and choose the new one. As to the attitudes around you, a bike is NOT like a toaster oven . . . just because it works doesn't mean it's right! Would you buy a car when you can't reach the gas and brake pedals? Or have a hard time seeing out the rear window? That's why they make OEM and aftermarket products . . . to help riders customize their bike to match their needs. Since you have the Volusia, why not check into modifications first while also considering another bike. I've on bike #4 right now and can tell you that each of them handled very differently from each other . . . yes, it makes a difference! – Mama Dear
VTwin Mama, Well then I decided to take the class and then decide after that . . . I passed it today!!! Never could get that box thing down, but really improved on my confidence!! I'm proud of myself because I was really nervous. I want to share with other nervous ladies to just go for it! Question . . . I felt really confident on the Rebel I used for the class, but I'm still afraid on the Alpha that I have. Should I just keep practicing with the Alpha or think about getting a Rebel? The Alpha just feels bigger, heavier and less nimble than the Rebel. I have an Alphasport GV 250 Classic (very pretty bike). – Joy Dear
Joy, Wednesday, August 31 Dear
VTwin
Mama, Heidi, first let me say -- congratulations on passing the MSF! As for the "big bike problem" you're experiencing, by all means, you should definitely follow V-Mama's recommendation and try to make it fit so that you're totally comfortable - both mentally and physically. They are both very important to safely controlling these 4, 5, or 600 pound beasties we love to ride. But if you just can't feel comfortable, no matter what you do, and you do want to go with say a smaller Shadow 600 - I can speak from experience since a 600 is what I ride, it is a great handling bike. Not too big as to be intimidating to a newer rider, but not as small as that Rebel 250. Low seat height at 25.6 inches, and a very low center of gravity. The only problem you may run into is at 5'11" you may find it a tad cramped to the pegs/controls. There are of course ways to get around this with accessory extensions and such. I'm 5'6" and the first time I sat on the Shadow 600 I felt right at home, perfect fit! Can flat foot easily and at only 450 lbs, the bike not me, I do not fear having to pick it up by myself. Here's hoping I don't have to do that real soon! The couple of times I did dump her, I fortunately had help to get her back up. The Shadow 600 only has four gears though, something to get used to. I find myself always trying to get into that elusive fifth gear when getting up to highway speed. But overall a nice, stable, nimble, comfortable ride, and not a lot of vibration at speeds. Not a long distance cruiser by any means, but for those midrange rides, it is a good bike. And I've also ridden it on gravel - it does well. I understand your consternation there, those nasty pebbles can certainly rock your bike's world - and yours. But as with any bike, big or small, try to stay loose, shift your weight onto the pegs as much as comfortable to the point of nearly standing on them, use that clutch to control your speed, let the front wheel roam loosely over the gravel surface, take it slow, and you should be fine. Or you could just do the ducky walk - one of my favorite dance steps! Good luck with whatever you choose to do. Just keep on riding! – LawlsVLX, aka Kris in Pennsylvania Dear
Kris, Dear
VTwin Mama, I do not have a lot of funds to spend . . . around $7-8,000 is all. I need something big enough to handle the interstate commute, driving around in town, and be my main source of transportation until the snow flies. There are a lot of bikes for sale around our area. I am 5'5 and weigh around 125.Where do I start? – Cat Woman Dear
Cat Woman, Given your riding needs, my suggestion is that you look at bikes that are at least 650cc as a starting point. I would sit down with the list of bikes for sale and circle anything that also falls within your price range. Then I would cross-reference those bikes . . . you can use the Want Facts site to seek basic info on bikes (cc power, picture, suggested value) also check my Motorcycles for Short Riders page to see if the bike make/model is listed, the height of the rider, and if any modifications were made. Some bike models include the Suzuki Savage and Intruder, Yamaha VStars, Kawasaki Vulcan, Shadow, Aero and Spirit, and Moto Guzzi's Breva. I'll simply add that some of these models fall within your price range brand new . . . something you may wish to consider. – Mama Monday, September 5 Dear
VTwin Mama, I went to a dealer and drooled over a Yamaha XVS1100 Classic they had there. I sat on it, it felt right, feet flat on the ground and I could see myself riding this massive beast. Even the weight didn't bother me (I'm 5ft 2', 110 pounds), price was kind of within budget. Yummo! Then I went to a private sale and sat on and rode a Virago 250. The test ride up the road and back again was quite fast enough and quite scary enough too! I'll leave the XVS1100 until another year I think. I'll be using my little black chariot on my postal route and somehow I know that 1100 is overkill for the job....Lol! Still I've got the fire in my blood now and can't wait to purchase my first big bike after I've gotten confidence on my little one. I spent ages on your site reading about bikes and stuff before I went out and bought. This is a great resource that doesn't make us novices feel silly for going small. I didn't have anyone else to "help" me in my purchase and maybe that's a blessing as I only bought what I truly felt comfortable on rather than what my (or anyone else's) ego felt comfortable on. Reading about others experiences with 250 bikes gave me the confidence to purchase one knowing it will serve me well. – Claire Dear
Claire, Tuesday, September 6 To Cat Woman who will be returning from overseas duty and wants a bike: Definitely go with a new bike. You have the funds for it . . . there are several you can get new for that price. The advantages are you have a warranty, you know how the bike has been cared for and ridden since you are the only rider and you don't get stuck with someone else's headaches. I started out with a Kawasaki 800 Vulcan. Great bike. But I found I was more comfortable and and could handle a sport bike better and easier. I am 5'1" and 108 lbs so I went with a 2006 Kawasaki ZZR600. It's just now getting broken in and with every ride out on the open road the gas mileage gets better. It doesn't have 1000 miles yet and I am already getting 61mpg. Sweet bike. Smooth, responsive, "flickable" (nice for parking lots and tight places), very handleable for any maneuvering and positive neutral finder (once you've had it you'll never be without it). It only weighs 377 lbs! But I ride at 70mph on the interstate with semis and I am just as stable as with the 500 lb cruiser. And I have all the power I need to pass or keep pace with traffic. It's a high horsepower bike, tho, so use good sense and be respectful of that throttle! Good Luck! – Rhonda from Springfield (note from Mama: thanks for adding extra thoughts on the reasons to buy a new bike when funds are available and for sharing why your current bike is proving to be such a winner!) Tuesday, September 6 Dear
VTwin Mama, I was thinking about the VTX 1300 - but I sat on one and WOW was that heavy. I could barely get it off of the kickstand. I'm so worried about dropping a bike (never have so far). I'm only 5'3". I'm not worried that I can't ride it, I'm worried I won't be able to move the bike around to park, etc. How do these tiny women ride these big 700 lbs bikes? – MsLeah2U Dear
MsLeah2U, With your riding time, you already know how important it is to pre-gauge your situation when parking. For newbies, let's review: if the slot is slightly uphill, then ride into the slot so gravity will help you roll it back when you're leaving. Downhill, turn in front of the slot and back in so you've got the throttle to power you back up. Parking slot slanted so the bike has to lean deeply to the left on the kickstand, take a u-turn and park on the other side! And let's not forget that excellent piece of advice from a VTM sister who make an excellent observation that when you cock the wheel to the right it's tons easier to get the bike off the kickstand (which I tried with my bike and voila! what a difference!). The other thing to share is that you want to double check your leg/foot position at a dead stop. Are your feet simply reaching the ground for balance, or do you have enough reach so that your legs can actually help power a duck walk, etc.? Lowering the bike or getting a lower profile seat or shaving the current seat would give you some leeway in oomph if that's the situation! I would also learn to pick up a bike the right way (if you haven't already learned this) so that you gain confidence in handling a situation where the bike takes a nap (not that you've done this yet, but again, the clue here is confidence!). Go to my Pick Up Bike page and you'll find links to sites that show you step by step. If you get the bigger beastie, consider practicing this! And it goes without saying, the bigger beastie means you really should go to an empty parking lot and put yourself through the beginner drills with the new bike. Setting up cones or tennis balls cut in half and practicing weaves, u-turns, etc. will immediately help you become one with the bike at slow speeds . . . where the bike's size and weight could become an issue if you've not taken the time to get those down pat. Even after 26 years of riding, I took my newest beastie and did the drills . . . very illuminating. So, think this all over and re-review your thoughts. As you noted, it CAN be done . . . and I think part of that is a pure desire to ride a certain bike! – Mama Tuesday, September 6 Dear VTwin Mama, Shellie wrote in on Aug. 22 about the Pacific Coast. We have a friend who is even shorter than we are, and she has been riding a stock PC for years quite comfortably. She just added a Virago to her stable and likes it pretty well. Continuing on the subject of short people, I sold my Suzuki SV650 to a very happy kid from Georgia. The aftermarket seat makers just couldn't get their act together and Suzuki's lower seat was not to be had even by their dealers. Great bike, but edgy/torquey, and turned out not to be my cup of tea. I finally test-rode a 2005 Sportster 1200 and loved it, except for the air cleaner cover poking my knee. Still madly in love with my Bonneville. We're very sad because the Buell Ulysses has a 35" seat. With all our lowering tricks (shocks, seat, forks) we could get it down to 32", still 1/2" taller than we can tiptoe on. Keep up the good work. – Sarah (note from Mama: you're just a shopping Mama, aren't you! Well, looking at lots of bikes really does hone our understanding of what will and won't work . . . and even gets us jazzed about the "dream" bike! I know that I saw my current bike, the 2001 BMW R1200C "Bumblebee", on a huge wall poster in a dealership . . . and fell in love right then and there. Several years down the road, and I now own that which I slobbered over all that time!) Tuesday, September 20 Dear
VTwin Mama, I just wanted to share my experience of a rough start. I took the MSF course here in Massachusetts in July and passed . We all know this in no way makes us road worthy; and I was very aware of that. So I took it nice and slow on my brand new Sporty Custom. I should add here that I am barely 5' 1" and turn 50 today (congrats and Happy B-Day!) … vertically challenged and no spring chicken is an understatement. Well, the first couple of times out I did fine. Very quiet back roads, no traffic lights, no intersections, etc. Then, coming back from a ride, pulled into my driveway, stopped and BAM! Down she went. OK - no biggie, I'm in my driveway. A little embarrassing, but I got over it. I thought. Next time out I'm coming to a stop at a stop sign, and down she goes again! This time a nice stranger helped me right her (I've since bought the Ride Like a Pro for the Ladies, so I think I could do it myself if I had to). OK, so now I know I need a parking lot! And guess what? Yep, dropped it there too. By this time I'm so convinced I'm going to drop it, I do. I'm telling this long story to bring up the point of 'fitting your bike' to you, especially those of us who are under 5' 4" or so. Come to find out my bike didn't fit me at all. I could barely touch my toes …. which added to my intimidation of the weight of the bike. There are things I'll do to lower the bike (different seat, different shocks), and I'll need to get the handlebars closer to me too. Before I make these changes I decided to buy a used Buell Blast to get some experience, and it's the best thing I could have done. I am having a blast (pardon the pun) on this little bike. I look like a bumble bee on my bright yellow and black ride! The lesson I learned was twofold - before you get on a new bike, make sure it fits you. If it doesn't, make it so. Secondly, it's not how glamorous your ride is. If you're getting from point A to point B and having fun and learning, what does it matter? Don't give up! – Denise Dear
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VTwin Mama, I have searched high and low for these answers to no end (see previous posting). As it turns out, there aren't any companies out there that make upgrades (other than a muffler) for my bike but thank you for the info. I guess most people with tour/sport bikes don't care about that stuff. I am ready for a new bike. The ZZR600 just doesn't cut it for me any more. I did a lot of research and it was a perfect bike to learn on but I now want something bigger. I know it all depends on the rider but what, in you opinion, would be a good step up? I am 5'10 and 140#'s and pretty aggressive on the bike. I've been looking at the CBR600, R6 ,750's, Ducati 800, 1000s, and 749. (I've been told about the upkeep on the Duc's but my husband is extreeemly cool). I had decided to buy the CBR600 as my first bike until the sales person talked me out of it. Now I'm upset that I didn't go with my gut. I've had people tell me to get a R6 but isn't it the same engine I have now, a 599cc?. Is the gearing that much different or am I just being stupid? Are the R6's really that much more powerful than the ZZR600? – Clueless Dear Clueless, I looked at the 2005 R6 and 600 and while much is the same, the R6 is fuel injected (great if you're doing a lot of altitude change riding) , it's lighter weight, sits about 1/2" higher and the digital instrumentation is standard. The big question is, what do you hope to accomplish with a more powerful bike? Are you looking for more performance, will you be taking longer trips, do you want a shaft drive, etc. Make your list and explore. Once you've narrowed down your search a bit, search for discussion forums specific to the bikes and see what's being said . . . from performance and parts, to service and handling. Here you'll find people talking candidly about the bikes! Don't forget my suggestion to explore women's sites specific to sport bike riding, links which can be found on my Women's Sites page. – Mama Friday, September 23 For Clueless who is searching for a more powerful bike than her ZZR600: If you really are an aggressive rider and you really do want more speed and power on a power to weight ratio then you need to forget about 600cc sports bikes and go straight up to the Honda Fireblade CBR 900 RR. It weighs only a little more than the 600's and is twice as fast. The Honda 900 handles really well also. If you really have to have the fastest bike on the block then don't consider anything except the Suzuki 1300cc Hyabusa. 600cc sports bikes are for people who really don't want to go that fast but want the looks and handling of bikes that do. At the end of the day you either really want to go fast or you do not! And forget the Ducati's, they are much slower than their Japanese brethren. I have a Ducati 680, speed kitted, thousands of dollars of go fast goodies and it still only manages to keep up with my stepson's Honda 900 at lower speeds. A Ducati 600 without the speed kit is pitifully slow. People don't buy Ducatis because they are super quick or have razor handling, they buy them because they have class and are not made in Japan. – Kevin, with Ducati input by Terri (note from Mama: thanks for more specific input form my Australian mates!) Friday, September 23 Good
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VTwin Mama, Dear Judy, My site does not have as much sport/touring bike info, but you may want to look at my Motorcycles for Short Riders list to get an overall view on what women have done to modify bikes to meet their shorter stature. Now that you've got some riding time in on the Rebel you should be able to put together some beginning thoughts. You'll want to pay specific attention to the positioning of your hands and feet to the controls, your overall body position, feet to ground comfort, and such things. That way, when you sit on bikes for consideration, you'll be cognizant of how the prospective bikes feel and if you need to discuss modifications at the time of purchase and if the modifications are even available. Basically, the more cc the bike, the more it weighs. If weight is a chief concern, keep in mind that your Rebel is 306 pounds. The only BMW that falls under 400 pounds is their 2005 F 650 CS at 374 pounds. You'll find that Suzuki, Yami, and Kawi make 500-750cc bikes in weight ranges of 350-500 pounds. These are considered mid-range sport bikes. Sport-touring models are in the 1000-1200cc range, with weights above 500 pounds. As I actually currently ride a 2001 BMW R1200C Phoenix, I'm fairly familiar with the 547 pounds of weight, which I consider lightweight for my 5'10", 185 pound frame, especially after wrestling around a '76 Harley SuperGlide for 10 years! But that's me! Personally, I use the Want Facts site to do research . . . you choose the link Research New, Motorcycles, By Feature, then use the different sections to narrow the search. Very illuminating and helps with the shopping task. Again I'll mention that there ARE woman-specific sites that cater to the more sporty style bikes . . . you'll find these links on my Women's Sites page. – Mama Dear VTwin Mama, Dear Leslie, So, now I'm going to refer to Mark Zimmerman's The Essential Guide to Motorcycle Maintenance and pull out information from Chapter 7: Final Drive. This book is more than maintenance tips and techniques, but truly explains how a bike works in as much detail as you wish to absorb. I consider it my Bike Bible. Mark notes that chains are a pain because they are pulled, twisted and covered in grit easily. Chain lubing and proper adjustment are a constant must as the chain and it's associated sprocket teeth wear. If it breaks on the road, and you're lucky, it won't wrap into the crankcase or tire sprockets. I'll add that carrying a master link is always advisable in case the chain is a simple break without extra damage . . . that link can put things back together. For belt drives, Mark mentions that they are low maintenance, have a long life, are quiet running, and tend to absorb engine-power pulses better than a chain. However, the one piece construction makes them harder to change out and if it breaks on the road, you're really dead in the water. He does add that they seldom break however. I'll add that many people consider the belt drive superior to the chain drive and were glad when conversion kits became available for their bike make/model. From Mark, the shaft drive is easier to maintain, requires less maintenance, and are cleaner than chains. However, they can use up more horsepower than belts or chains and in some cases, affect the bike's handling. I'll add that on my shaft drive BMW, if I goose the throttle in neutral, I can feel the bike's rear end want to twist a bit to the left and up. I consider this minor and just a handling quirk, but something to keep in mind when doing throttle crack moves (i.e., quick, evasive maneuvers in times of trouble). So, that's some input. You'll find as many opinions as you wish to on this subject as each rider has reasons to favor one over the other. – Mama Tuesday, September 27 Dear
VTwin Mama, I want a cruiser, more specifically, the bug I have is saying black BMW 1200CLC. Need to get into a training facility first, which I will do, but I've always been a "rise to the occasion" kind of girl. I'm 5'7", 112lbs., but strong, agile, reflexes pretty good and I know I'd feel confident riding overall. Frame wise, I think I'd make it - not exactly short. No substitute for experience though. Little Honda trailbike doesn't exactly qualify. Am I biting off more than I can chew here? Not the heaviest bike around, but this thing is big. I see myself not needing to maneuver in serious conditions (no off-roading), just nice long Sunday cruises and to have a passenger perched on the thing properly and comfortable. What do you think? Go for the exact image in my mind now, confront and educate with any obvious limitations, or is this a bad idea? Should I really think about starting smaller? I will test drive a few different things, but based on entries I've read here, until you have spent some substantial time with the machine do you really understand what your needs vs. wants are? Thanks for your input! – Lisa Dien in San Diego Dear Lisa, While you won't be going off the road, the cage drivers are around will present plenty of challenges, so don't underestimate the need for maneuvering. For instance, Liz Ryan, a rider with the NC Wind Weavers chapter of Women on Wheels, recently had a car do a last second slam on the brakes for a left turn, causing her to downshift as quickly as possible, jam on the brakes, go into a skid, and go down. She's now being treated for multiple injuries and we hope for her speediest recovery. No matter what bike we choose, it's important to become one with the bike, to learn the specific handling characteristics of that bike, and to master the skills. Sure, most of the time it's easy cruising, but it also requires a constant scan for potential trouble and the ability to do the best possible job to minimize the impact when someone causes problems for us. I'm drooling over that BMW, and as I have a 2001 BMW R1200C, I'm familiar with the line. At 5'10", I find the 29.1" seat height to be just fine, but you're a bit shorter and your "dream" bike has a 29.3" seat height , so you'll want to check if your feet are going to be flat to the ground. Can the bike be lowered, are there lower profile seats, etc. Also, this bike is 672 lbs., vs. mine at 554, so moving this bike around at a dead stop is going to require that you've got foot traction! A good dedicated site for all BMW 1200 series bikes is the Chrome Heads. If you want the true skinny on this bike, hop on, and read . . . very illuminating! It's difficult for me to say whether you should just go for your dream bike or get a smaller bike to get some practice time in. My best suggestion is that you take the course, see how it feels, and then go with your gut instinct on how to proceed. Now matter what you decide, it's important to take your own beastie (whatever you choose) to an empty practice lot to begin working on the specific skills necessary to become a good street rider. I, and many of the women at this site, have found that the Ride Like a Pro series of DVDs are excellent to help plan out practice sessions and make you aware of what's important to know. Mention the VTwin Mama site and get $5 off the shipping/handling cost! If you're a reader, then hop onto my Education Center page . . . lots of books that address the many aspects of street riding. These are smart steps and can get you started now while you wait to take a course! I wish you the best in starting your new journey . . . we look forward to giving you your first biker wave out on the road! – Mama Tuesday, September 27 Dear
VTwin Mama, Any thoughts on the matter? Thanks for your help. – B. Dear B., Your CG125 is about 250 pounds. So, now ask yourself, what weight do you think would feel comfortable? The fact is that almost any weight can be handled by a rider if their feet are firmly on the ground at a stop (this is truer for newer riders) and it's a matter of getting use to. Now you've got to ask yourself, what power range do you really want and/or need? What type of riding are you planning on doing? If it's short trips around town or to work, that's one thing. Longer day riding or multiple day trips are another thing. Why not see if there will be a motorcycle show in your area . . . that way you can see lots of makes/models under one roof and with notebook in hand, jot down some thoughts! The Motorcycle Events site is a good place to check into it. If you can't wait, then I would start visiting dealerships, looking at everything from 250-750cc bikes and getting some first impressions! Make a list of all the points of interest to you, like style, cc power, seat height, weight, check your arm and leg reach to the controls, etc. I'm thinking one or two bikes are going to "call" to you and you'll be bubbling with enthusiasm over it! Maybe you'll decide that Monster is great, maybe not. Don't shortchange yourself on this step . . . it's time to shop! – Mama Dear
VTwin Mama, Dear JJ, If a bike seat is injection molded, then modifications cannot be made. If there is padding, and covered, then a local upholstery shop should be able to open it up, trim the padding, and put it back together. I'd contact a local Ducati dealer and ask! My research shows that the seat height is 30.3" The other thing I'd ask the dealer is if this bike can be lowered by use of a lowering kit, lower profile tires (smaller), or shorter shocks. In general I find that sporty-type bikes have less lowering solutions than compared to standard cruisers. Also, give serious consideration to your riding boots . . . a bit more sole height can make a huge difference! Now I'm going to add one more note: you say that your husband has deemed this bike to be perfect for you . . . but what do you think? Do you like the looks and style equally? Have you done a lot of shopping at dealers to take a look at what's available? Have you made a list of things that are important in your decision making process? It just seems a little weird to have a bike shipped from PR. At the very least, you should sit on a similar model (if that one isn't available locally). Getting a first bike can seem a bit overwhelming . . . but that's exactly why you should stop, take your time, think it through, make some notes, look at lots of bikes . . . and most importantly, don't let someone else, no matter how loving they are, choose a bike for you. A bike is HIGHLY personal and the only person who can say if it's a possible "right" is you! Why jump the gun?! I have a number of links to women-specific sites that are highly tuned to the subject of sporty-type bikes, which you can find on my Women's Sites page. I'd take the time to visit these sites, maybe join the discussion forums, etc. Your research at this stage is going to make a huge difference in your upcoming riding experience. – Mama Tuesday, October 4 For JJ who is considering the Ducati Monster 400 as her first bike: Terri's Ducati 600 Monster is actually almost dead on 27". I think the official height of 30" is a little over estimated. And JJ, do not forget that when you sit on the bike, the suspension will lower at least another inch or more. Corbin makes custom seats for Duc's. You can also drop the front forks through the triple tree an inch or more. Any upholsterer can trim foam off the seat also and then recover. My question is . . . did Ducati import the 400 into the USA at all? And if not . . . can you get parts for it easily or will everything have to be ordered from Italy? – Kevin (note from Mama: great points to consider!) Wednesday, October 5 Dear
VTwin Mama, I found her a Yamaha Virgo 250 and she fell in love with it as her first bike. She only rode it once, then had to have open heart surgery in Feburary and it took till July for her to get back to doing some things she liked to do. She was not getting as well as the doctors liked till July . . . when I took her to the bike and said at least try it again. Well, let me tell you she really has gotten better faster now than the doctors can believe and it is due to being able to ride and in control. She loves it, but has stated many times it is because the bike was small in size and she was not afraid of it to begin with. She says it is a keeper forever even with her moving up to an 883 Harley part time now. But it was the fact that she and the bike fit each other from the start that has kept her going and she rides it everyday rain or shine. It has been a life saver to me and her and a Godsend for her health and happiness. Sorry about the long post, but I get caught up in it about the size thing . . . bigger is better some times and on some things, but the right fit for a bike and rider is the most important fit there is. Thanks for hearing me out. – Dave T. Dear Dave, Is there anything more icky than a bike that doesn't fit a rider?! Me thinks not! It erodes confidence, whether a rider is new or experienced. I know that when I bought my current bike, a 1200cc, that I started second-guessing myself whether I should have gone for "more" bike. After all, I've been riding for 26 years! After putting 2500 miles on it, I realized that it wasn't the cc rating that mattered . . . it was the totally right fit for me . . . the most important point, just like you said! It CAN be difficult for a new rider to determine what bike is going to be the right fit though. That's why we talk so often about digging deep into one's gut and heart and not only determining how we feel, but also saying what we really need and where we think our adventure is going to lead us, and then being adamant about sticking to our guns on how to proceed! It was interesting to read how your wife's health improved much more quickly when she was able to return to a dream/goal and take control of the situation. I wish for you both a gazillion years of riding together and sharing the joy. – Mama Thursday, October 6 For Leslie who was investigating how chain/belt/shaft drive affects the actual ride: I wanted to let Leslie know that the few mechanically inclined men I have talked to are in full agreement with the information you posted from your "bible." A shaft responds differently to the bike, as he notes, but you only notice if it you have a chance to ride and compare each. I definitely favor a shaft drive for low maintenance and ease of operation. But Harley uses the belt a lot and their bikes shift very nicely. The belts are supposed to be good for 100,000 miles - not something most riders will ever see on their bike. Shaft or belt are definitely my recommendations. Ride often, take care! – April (note from Mama: thanks for sharing!) Monday, October 10 More for Leslie who was investigating how chain/belt/shaft drive affects the actual ride: My 800 Vulcan Drifter comes stock with a chain drive. I converted to belt drive about a month or so ago. The change was very noticeable. Converting to belt drive changed the gear ratio and allows more pick up speed in lower gears. For someone with “just an 800”, I can now keep up with the big boys for a short time.. Ok, so they can catch me and pass me, but I very quick on the starting line and can keep with them for the first couple of gears… he haaa. One thing to note, converting to a belt drive really needs to be done by someone who knows what they are doing. Proper belt adjustment is very important and you must check the belt tension regularly. This prevents belt breakage and allows for longer belt life. Belt drives are also quieter than chains and you don’t have the grease or chain wax getting all over your tires. It is cleaner (I have white walls)!!! Now, if there was a way to prevent that brake dust. (sigh) – Bonnie (note from Mama: thanks for added notes about changing from chain to belt drives . . . it's greatly appreciated!) Dear
VTwin Mama, I've been looking for a Honda Rebel, which is the bike used in the class, or a Yamaha Virago. I know I can ride a Rebel at least good enough to pass the test and from what I've read, the Virago is just as easy but with a little more fun. The problem that I've had is that there was a mad rush on these smaller bikes when the gas prices went up, which means that the used ones are next to impossible to get my hands on and the new ones aren't in the showroom long enough for me to sit on and see how they feel. If I had to order one of the 2 sight unseen, I would have to go with the Rebel, but my gut instinct is saying the Virago. My common sense says that to order a bike that I've never seen much less been on is stupid, but if one more salesman tries to sell me a bike that I don't feel comfortable on yet I'm going to have to sacrifice them to the motorcycle gods. I can sit on both the Honda Shadow VLX and the Yamaha V-Star Custom and have my feet on the ground, it's the weight that I find a little intimidating with only 3 days of riding experience. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. By the way, I love this site. (thanks!) I read it before I signed up for the class and told anyone that I was going to get my motorcycle license. It's helped me see through all the well meaning, but mis-focused advice. – Lisa Dear Lisa, Congrats to you and hubby dearest for getting your endorsements! Sacrifice every single person who thinks that getting a bike without seeing it, sitting on it, and giving it due consideration is ok . . . you have my express permission. Depending on where you live, I'll join you in a ritual bonfire dance and/or putting together voodoo dolls! If the dealers aren't willing to call you to see a bike that will exit the showroom quickly, why not set up a tent on their doorstep! Ok, not so practical! How about doing a search for a motorcycle show in your area . . . many are held during winter months . . . check Motorcycle Events for listings . . . a great way to see many bike make/models under one roof and well worth a bit of travel time to go see! I can appreciate that the mid-range bikes have a weight that's intimidating at this point. The answer is: you have to dig deep into your gut instinct and decide if you think you would greatly benefit getting practice time on a smaller bike first before graduating to a bigger bike, or if you think you could get a bigger bike right off the bat and take it to an empty, distraction-free parking lot to run through the drills you learned in your course and work on learning the handling characteristics before graduating to the streets. I know you're chomping at the bit to get a bike . . . but now is the time to have patience and formulate your battle plan in light of bikes that disappear as fast as they appear! – Mama Wednesday, October 12 For Lisa who is bike shopping but the current gas crisis is making them more scarce: First, I'm of the male persuasion and I find your site very helpful (thanks!) and helps me to learn and get tips how to help my wife be a better rider (what a wise mentor you are!). Now to the bike finding issue. You are likely aware of this, but just in case, there are other places to go to look for new and used bikes besides local dealers and newspapers. There are several web sites you might want to check out for used bikes. E-bay, Cycle Trader (cycletrader.com) and the other Craig's List (www.craigslist.org then choose your city from the list). Cycle Trader is a place where many people advertise bikes and you can search for bikes in your area. The other is Craig's List. This is a free site in terms that you don't pay to advertise merchandise for sale. Many of the ads in the Portland area have pictures too, which I like. I posted my Virago 250 on that site and had more response than I did in the major daily paper here in Oregon. I had friends who bought 2 Honda Rebels off of E-bay several years ago and where happy with the process. They bought them sight unseen. Not something I would be comfortable with though. And I just had another thought. I bought the Virago 250 from someone from a Virago Owner's group list. I had been reading posts and asking questions about the 250 and someone said, I have one, you want it. I don't recall which list now. A web search for motorcycle groups using the terms Virago, Rebel, Yamaha, and Honda should give you many places to check out. And of course, don't forget local motorcycle riding clubs/groups. And my 2 bits about which bike. And remember you get what you pay for here. My wife had never ridden before and had some difficulty in passing the riding course. After much thought I bought her a Virago 535. It turned out to be a good bike for her. I got the 250 later thinking that it would help build her confidence. She didn't stay on it long before she wanted the extra power. This summer she put on over 7,000 miles on that Virago over all sorts of roads. And the last thing. I think it is better to get something too small to start with than too big. Too big and you may give up riding . Too small, you build up your skills, learn what you can handle and what you like. Ride safe, – Kurt (note from Mama: what a wonderful expanded view on places one might search for a bike for sale! And I appreciate that you've strengthened the message about choosing too big vs. choosing too small when a rider gets started.) |
